Kapil sibal meets IIT Directors on ISEET, meeting ends with no decision

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Earlier a meeting was scheduled on 11th April by MHRD Minister Kapil Sibal to discuss the implementation of ISEET for all centrally funded engineering institutions from academic year 2013 , as several IIT senates from old IIT’s such as IIT Delhi, IIT Kanpur and IIT Bombay have expressed serious concerns on the pattern of ISEET or new pattern JEE to be implemented from 2013.

Reportedly the meeting ended with no apparent conclusion while both the parties maintained that MHRD and IIT’s are now on the same page and that the meeting was fruitful and positive, the meeting concluded with action of IIT Directors to discuss the reforms of IIT JEE with their respective senates and revert back to MHRD on the same.

Some of the concerns expressed by IIT senates are:

  • Weightage to 12th board examination scores
  • Formula for weightage of 12th board scores for ISEET .
  • ISEET constituting only objective questions
  • Control of IIT’s on the entrance exam
There’s one more meeting that will be held with IIT Council’s on April 14th where some decision on conflict might be resolved.

 

gvjhg says:

kapil is doing excellent job by briging all iits,nit ,iiits,deemed unives. undr one exam . in this way a stud. culd focus only one exam .it does not lwr. his chance of sel. as he could sit for iits 2 times in a yr. stu. mst.  undrstand that only 40% whetage to bords could not lwr his chance of selection (60%=24marks,80=32,90=36marks,100=40)& a stud. who prepare for comptition only from 9th or 11th stand. could easily get 70-80% marks in bords as he has neglected bords in comparision to a poor stu. who prepare only for boards . if we stop thinkig only about 10000 stu. going to iits yearly it would be great move for other 9-10 lakhs stud. who go in nits,iiits,deemed universities

Sahil Chopra says:

sale ek bat ka dhyan rkhio agar mera admission nai hua na… teri tan main dhi bhen ik kar dwanga… madarchod gandu…. teri maa the shola paatte.. kudi de lan laene… apni ma nu chudte hoye wekh laya ae… fuddi own de….

Sahil Chopra says:

arey dub mar kapil sibbal.. sale kyu humare future ki maa bhen ek karne pe laga hua hai……wela hai kya or koi kam hai bhi k nai tujhe.

Vinay Lenin says:

Iseet should be there but including of 12th class marks is not right because it would create a problem in country in making percentages and it will down the value of IIT's. it would sort out the people who learn by byharting subject from childhood onwards in IIT'S foundation schools and helps to give the ranks to who think laterally for every concept that they read.I think this is another step to make india from devloping country to developed country as coming engineers are not ordinary engineer's.

Sai Ram Naidana says:

that is why the aptitude test has been implemented in iseet,to sort out byharting students and pick out students who think laterally…………………

Shivika says:

This fellow is not going to think anything better for our future 12 board percent should not be added b,coz iit and subjective exam is very different they are foolish bcoz they think implementing iseet would decline the business of coaching institutes . It will never happen as coaching institutes have very important role in our life. Pls anybody do something these people hate us they want to destroy our career

ANUPAM DEKA says:

 @Shivika , I AGREE WID U……..100%

Shivika says:

Shivika

Sahil Tandon says:

The system is too slow in taking a fruitful decision! This what confuses the students and irritates them…… Do what ever u have to but do it quick. Just don't keep meetings and pass time!!

Jacopo annese says:

Karna toh hai!! Jo bhi karna hai do it quick!!! Time waste karne see aap ka Kuch nahii jaaegaa par students ka time zaroor jaaegaa!! Socha achcha hai ab implement bhi kar doo na yaar!!

If its to be implemented, implement it…students will be in confusion about the pattern which may harm their preparations & scorings.

My Dear Rahul Heartstoler this has been implemented

Kumar Navendu its still not decided yet…its still under consideration..google it..
the meeting was to be held on 14th april,12..bt it ended with no conclusion..decision is still hanging..!!!

Sai Ram Naidana says:

Kumar Navendu how do u know that its implemented?

Sai Ram Naidana the meeting is to be held on 10th of may again..last time it was held on april 14 bt it ended with no result

Nithin Subbiah says:

Kumar Navendu its not yet implemented….

klkl3 says:

can any1 explain me what is iseet main exam (in detail). i know that there is English comprehensing , critical thinking and logical reasoning but i wanna know that what is asking  in three of them ( eg;  from English comprehensing section==> vocabulary, synonyms and antonyms they must be ask) like that i want full detail of iseet.
 
                           if any1 know the structure of iseet so please
 
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Akash Bhat says:

yup….it is too late to implement this examination. students who have started their preparation already for state engineering exams are in great stress. there will be no time for us to prepare for the same. we students are okay with 3 exams , we don't have any stress giving three exams of different difficulty level. even if one student couldn't do it in iit jee , he can be sure enough to get admissions in state engineering colleges with help of cet. this iseet 2013 is holy crap!

evilshinichi95 says:

dis is confusing..!!

Rahul_ism says:

Previously also all the initiatives by sibal were failed event. Why now he is playing with the future of India. Everyone knows that this system is going to collapse in first year of itself. Even then if he want then why not in multiple phases. Why he is so egoistic to cover institute.

Qasim Dargo says:

I think there is no problem in implementing the new iitjee pattern from 2013 but no weightage should be given to 12th board percentage.it is easy to score in state boards as compared to cbse or icse and moreover board %age doesn't tell about one's capabilities.It would be injustice to cbse students.Admission to iit's should be given only on the basis of one's performance in the jee test.This way iit's would be able to produce good engineers.

But the IITs should be left out of it even if they plan to implement the iseet in 2013. The JEE is a tried and tested method and should not be changed in a haste without proper reason. First the senate and faculty have to be satified with the proposed changes and they have to agree to it only then should they do anything drastic.

Sai Ram Naidana says:

Meera Vigraham :a real iit aspirant can be prepared for any kind of exams,without making any nonsence.iseet is the best exam ever because it not only tests the subject matter which a person gained but also tests his aptitude and general iq.this way india can develop brilliant engineers nurtured from every corner of the country.it is a wrong opinion that iseet is a mess for the iit"s .by the implimentation of iseet,a student gets relieved from stress.a true iitian never thinks isset as a bane to him.

Sai Ram Naidana Nobody knows the exact pattern of iseet or what level it’s going to be to conclude if it is a brilliant exam or not. Also it is evident that if it has to cater to the students who take the state entrance exams and other exams of lower caliber it cannot be of the same level as JEE. Because as we all know JEE is of a very high caliber and not many can crack it. Besides if the cbse board is going to conduct it will be a malpractice ridden exam with paper leaks like what happened in aieee 2011. Only those who know they are not good enough to crack the JEE will support this.

Sriram Ragavan says:

Sai Ram Naidana If it is so good why are the faculty and senate objecting? Are you saying they are so stupid that they dont know what is good?

Sriram Ragavan says:

Sai Ram Naidana Then why are the senate and facuty objecting? are you saying they are all stupid people and Sibal is samrter and knows all about the IITs while they dont?

Soumya Mufc Ranjan says:

Malpractices occur sometimes…..the SAT type xam will be beneficial because it tests ur logical skills along with the scientific aptitude. So its better than jee as studying science and applying formula is lot different than applying science in daily life.. by the way how many iit'ians go to research? a handful few.. SAT is wat 2 easy compared to JEE but see the standards of those Institute..IIt is way below 300…just compare it and see how we need ISEET to Allow students to focus on cocepts and spend more time loving and analysing science rather than using formulas and applying them

Soumya Mufc Ranjan The Jee is tried and tested, it would be insulting the IITians who have passed out all these years to say they have passed a useless exam and now we are going to bring in the best exam (on which no study has ever been conducted to prove that) The SAT is a qualifying exam and the JEE an entrance exam to compare the two would be ridiculous. The US universities do not base their selection on SAT alone. SAT is only a proof that the student can handle the level at college. Otherwise the admissions are largely based on many other things like leadership qualities, research abilities, team work capabilities, passion for the subjects, social bent of mind etc. a person with a less SAT score can be picked over one with more as per the admission boards decision, that is why it is called a qualifying exam. The reason for those universities being on top has other reasons not SAT, one of the reasons is the non-interference by the govt in their policies and total autonomy. For your information the JEE does focus on concepts and their application and innovative problems. Everyone by now knows what is the real reasons behind these proposed changes.

atleast 2-3 years should be given in hands to students to prepare pattern proof……don't rush into any decission….

vaibhavg_159 says:

atleast 2-3 years should be given in hands to students to prepare pattern proof……don’t rush into any decission….

Tanishq Chauhan says:

come one iits , u can do it.

Kapil SibAl Su**S!

S Pardeep Singh says:

I think it would be good if they discuss the matter properly and make no hurry in implementing changes in IIT-JEE. They must wait upto 2014 because only till then all the merits and demerits of this step will be visible.

Mahak Shah says:

it shd be in 2013 only..

Ram Harsha Kuncham says:

Mahak Shah it is easy to place a comment but students who have already prepared in one particular method wil have to convert their method of preparations

Mahak Shah says:

Ram Harsha Kuncham i dn thnk they have 2 do much .. jst hv to prepare for aptitude.. nd obviously a student seriously preparing for jee will get good score in 12 board

Ram Harsha Kuncham says:

Mahak Shah yeah sure but on considering 12th board score in andhra pradesh students scoe more than 90% are nearly 40% so students going to iit will be of low grade form hence the standard of iit will be pushed down

S Pardeep Singh says:

Mahak Shah – I agree with you. But a student preparing for IIT-JEE can get only 'good' marks not 'best' marks in 12th and from 2013, he/she is going to need the 'best' marks he/she can get.

Ram Harsha Kuncham says:

S Pardeep Singh well said because person who does excellent mathematics in jee cant write good in boards because he/she is habituated doing things in short cut

@Mahak Shah If the Senate and faculty have an objection, it should be looked into, because they are experienced and respected people, their valid questions regarding the changes have to be answered, the flaws they have pointed out need to be fixed, not being able to give any proper answers, and not trying to fix the flaws, but to simply use their power and money to force the change shows this is not good for the students.

It is too late to implement it for the 2013 batch. Or why the hell cant they just go ahead with the iseet but leave only the IIT's out of it? It is no great 'stress' for students to write two exams. Watching this iseet vs jee tug of war is more stressful to everyone. Of course the 12th board marks nonsence has to go. Let them first do a dry run of the percent/percentile tamasha this year and see if all boards and students are ok with the results they arrive at.

Prasanna RN says:

exactly.. leave the iit's out….

Vagabond Roll says:

its not too late ,,,,i think govt can change anytime .

Ariena Roy says:

freak!

this is ####.

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